MGTOW is gay

MGTOW is an acronym for "Men Go Their Own Way", and the movement is a genetic dead end.

From one website on the topic, https://www.mgtow.com/about/, they define the movement like this:

Men Going Their Own Way is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: "No". Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a "man" is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't.

Do you catch the whiff of delusion mixed with truth?

The best way to sell a lie is to mix it with truth. Take something that is true, something that resonates with your target, get them emotionally invested, and then sell them the lie. The truth is treated as bait, its used to lure the unsuspecting, the desperate.

Like an oasis in the desert, people do truly hunger and thirst for truth while wandering through a wasteland. Something they can cling to, something that they can put their hope in, something they can rely on. In circumstances of abuse, this even shows up in phenomenon like Stockholm Syndrome, where a victim tries to find comfort in the abuse, to justify it, to cope with it to find "normal" again.

There is a comfort in familiarity that is hard to circumvent.

So here, we have the truth in that modern society does not value the individual man. Men are disposable, and men don't want to think of themselves that way. It's demeaning, right? It's dehumanizing, right?

Let's get some perspective though.

Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’:

“Cursed is the ground for your sake;
In toil you shall eat of it
All the days of your life.
Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you,
And you shall eat the herb of the field.
In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread
Till you return to the ground,
For out of it you were taken;
For dust you are,
And to dust you shall return.” - Genesis 3:17-19 (NKJV)

Men are dust.

According to God, men are dust.

Exactly how much "sovereignty" does dust have?

Exactly how much power does dust have?

Look at the deception of Eve.

Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate. - Genesis 3:4-6 (NKJV)

Do you see the familiarity yet?

The modern deceit is that men and women are equal, or even worse that the world would be better if men were women and women were men. It's a demonic attempt to rewrite the rules that God set in place, to make an attempt to undermine or subvert God's authority.

And MGTOW is just the same lie the serpent sold Eve, being sold to feminized men.

The future doesn't exist without fathers and mothers, but now men are learning to say "no", and that's supposed to mean something?

Humanity set the tone for its own miserable existence by saying "no". Humanity said "no" to God, trying to become gods in their own right, refusing to "bow, serve, and kneel" before anyone else.

While the MGTOW movement is correct in that men today are not treated correctly and our culture is destroying itself through goddess worship, the solution isn't to start god worship. To find truth "within", to reject all external inputs, because God is an external input to humanity.

The depravity in the movement is seen in its cowardice, because the odds have always been stacked against men, since we stepped out of Eden. That's not just "bad luck", it's literally the curse we men bear for our sin against God. We cannot overthrow that anymore than we can start ignoring gravity.

So do you see the thirst for power in that definition statement about the MGTOW movement? It should disturb you deeply, because it echoes the lines of the "bad guy" from the dystopian future that had been predicted by George Orwell in the novel "1984" (underline added by me):

Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own? Power is in inflicting pain and humiliation. Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing. Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery is torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress towards more pain. The old civilizations claimed that they were founded on love or justice. Ours is founded upon hatred. In our world there will be no emotions except fear, rage, triumph, and self-abasement. Everything else we shall destroy — everything. Already we are breaking down the habits of thought which have survived from before the Revolution. We have cut the links between child and parent, and between man and man, and between man and woman. No one dares trust a wife or a child or a friend any longer. But in the future there will be no wives and no friends. Children will be taken from their mothers at birth, as one takes eggs from a hen. The sex instinct will be eradicated. Procreation will be an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card. We shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are at work upon it now. There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy. There will be no art, no literature, no science. When we are omnipotent we shall have no more need of science. There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness. There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always — do not forget this, Winston — always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless.

MGTOW then is not a reaction to, or a revolution against, the cultural movements that supposedly prompted it, MGTOW is instead the NATURAL PROGRESSION OF THE SAME EXACT MOVEMENT.

I put that in caps because of how important it is to grasp that you cannot revolt against a movement by continuing the train of thought and adapting yourself to it. Where Feminism sought to begin the work of creating a permanent divorce between man and woman, MGTOW seeks to throw further fuel on the fire by appealing to the ego of feminized men, men who lacking testosterone and the brain differences caused by the chemical are more easily controlled by their emotions, to "retake" a position in life that men never had to begin with.

MGTOW would finish the dysgenic work that Feminism started by seeking to break apart the fundamental unit of civilization: the family.

Without the family, there is no civilization. It is the smallest unit of a stable society, not the individual, because the individual does not pop into existence by themselves, but are born to a mother and father, who then raise them up. The family is the microcosm that civilization reflects as a macrocosm. The individual exists in a vacuum, but a family has relationships, and so civilization cannot be based on the individual, but on family, and this is how civilizations have worked since the beginning.

Or haven't, in the case that the predominant family structure of a people group becomes dysfunctional, or is eliminated entirely under delusional hubris.

Our society has no problems "saying no". Saying no to abstinence, saying no to obedience to God, saying no to commitment, to discipline, to the process of sanctification. Women took the lead in this regard, and MGTOW wants to believe that following women, yet again, in learning how to "say no", will result in anything but mutual destruction.

There is no future for MGTOW because the "best interests" of man inherently require the involvement of woman.

Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” - Genesis 1:28 (NKJV)

Even more delusional, at least this definition provided seems to think that it's "the world" that has a problem with man pursuing his "best interests".

If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. - John 15:19 (NKJV)

Is MGTOW leading the charge for a spiritual revival? A return to God's word, to God's definition of gender roles?

For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. - Romans 8:5 (NKJV)

Well, if men are looking to "no one else", what are the odds that they'll look to God, and God's word, to dictate their behavior? To shape their priorities?

MGTOW is just the latest flavor of demonic depravity, seeking to delude people into becoming their own gods, seeking to destroy what God created, and all of it hidden behind crafty deceptions. Look at the defeatism in the choices made by the MGTOW crowd of men. The apparent inevitability of the circumstances we face, and how they apparently cannot change, so we may as well adapt and make the best of things.

How sad they are because the power they're supposed to be seeking would overturn the very dynamics they whine about in the first place. If men were looking to God, obedient to God's commands, upholding God's commands, then we'd not have gone down this path in the first place, all the way back to Adam.

And this is why, just like "conservatives", the MGTOW movement is filled with losers. Filled with men whose lofty ideals cannot ever be manifest, so they just give up on trying, on fighting, on making any real genuine changes, because that would require hard work and sacrifice that they don't want to commit.

So much easier to declare that victory is impossible, so we must now find a way to accept our new overlords and make the best of things. So much easier to declare that nothing can be done, so you are free to absolve yourself of any responsibility to do anything but what you want.

That does not mean finding a good wife is easy, but it has never truly been so. Those who believe in a "golden era" in the past are ignoring the complete view of history that informs us that the times of supposed ease have simply relaxed the definitions, not increased the number of "good women".

If you're not willing to fight, if you're willing to just give up without trying very hard, without expending resources you'd rather put towards pursuing your own pleasures, then you deserve the lonely death you will inevitably experience.

Return to God, look to God's word and God's examples, through the successes of Jesus Christ contrasted with the failures of every other man in scripture, to guide you, to define you.

Not even you know yourself as well, as honestly, as God does. Want for your life what God wants for you, and trust that where God will lead you will be more fulfilling, more rewarding, more satisfying than anything you could have accomplished on your own strength.

God redeems people, not practices

My wife recently asked me what I thought about gift-giving, and while the backdrop of the season came into play, her question was more general because we've had some heated discussions on the topic over the past few months. In short, the nature and circumstances of my upbringing and family dynamics were very different from hers, and there is a comfort in familiarity which is hard to get past, and determining which traditions and such to carry on in our own family can be contentious.

Either way, I had provided an answer but felt it incomplete, lacking objective grounding, and so I needed to do some digging on the nature of some of the various traditions, and subsequently holidays, that are celebrated in the United States, and by our two families in different ways.

To start, I have already long been resentful of "Christmas", in that while many complain about the obvious commercialization, I don't think many realize just how little of the holiday is really "Christian" at all. I had assumed lazily that there may have been some elements added, changed, or adapted to align with Christian teaching, but the degree to which every aspect of the different holidays was wholesale copied from pagan practices, and then merely given a coat of "Christian" paint, genuinely surprised me when I really started to examine the history honestly.

To start, while God knows our heart, our intent doesn't change whether an action is sinful or not. If we're trying to do something "in Jesus' name", but Jesus did not ask us to do said things, then we don't get any credit for trying. For the same reason that not everyone should get a trophy, not all behaviors are sanctifying or useful.

All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify. - 1 Corinthians 10:23 (NKJV)

Here, Paul was talking about food, but some of the sentiment gets carried over into other areas of "Christian life" by folks who want to believe that, because they now "have Jesus", they can continue on in sinful behaviors, but "in Jesus' name", and that somehow makes sin no longer sinful.

I cannot be in an adulterous affair and claim that, despite the actions being sinful, I am really doing what is best for my marriage "in Jesus' name", and so I have not sinned.

I cannot be gluttonous with food and claim that, despite the actions being sinful, I am really eating to the glory of God "in Jesus' name", and so I have not sinned.

I cannot partake in activities which denounce God's glory, despite the actions being sinful, I am really seeking to bring honor to God "in Jesus' name", and so I have not sinned.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. - 1 John 1:8 (NKJV)

Simplest put, if we were not really sinning in our behavior without God, then what need did we have of God to save us from our sins? If everything we were doing, all the traditions and practices were acceptable, the only issue was who we supposedly did them in honor of, then "salvation" is merely in ensuring that the correct deity is called upon when we seek to manifest our own desires. That we have the right ingredients and astral alignment when we cast our spells.

It shifts the focus back on us to do the right thing, yet another manifestation of works-based salvation, and that takes away from what Jesus Christ did, and from what God commands.

And these desires, to declare past actions less sinful, are entirely selfish and self-serving, not driven by a passionate pursuit of truth, but instead by false piety. In the same manner that the Pharisees and scribes that Jesus thoroughly excoriated, as recorded in Matthew 23, the efforts are to place an emphasis on the outward expressions of righteousness whilst retaining a heart of stone which has  ultimately rejected God and is plotting constant rebellion against God.

Like a blog post I had made many years ago about some fictional characters in the video game World of Warcraft, the deceit is that so long as the object of your worship is correct, the manner in which you worship or seek to serve doesn't matter, but that is wrong. What we do does also matter, because God did not tell Israel to worship in any manner they saw fit, so long as they "gave God the credit" in the end.

God wanted Israel's worship to be distinct, to be different in nature and form from the pagan nations that surrounded them, or that they were to have purged from the "promised land".

You shall not go after other gods, the gods of the peoples who are all around you (for the Lord your God is a jealous God among you), lest the anger of the Lord your God be aroused against you and destroy you from the face of the earth. - Deuteronomy 6:14-15 (NKJV)

take heed to yourself that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed from before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, ‘How did these nations serve their gods? I also will do likewise.^' You shall not worship the Lord your God in that way; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods. - Deuteronomy 12:30-31 (NKJV)

This meant God did not want for Israel to take on any existing practices or rituals and "redeem them" in their worship of God, but to avoid them altogether and to have no part in practicing them. Paul would later echo this sentiment as well.

What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything? Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons. Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than He? - 1 Corinthians 10:19-22 (NKJV)

God does not want to be worshiped the same way that "Gentiles...sacrifice to demons", because if two people are performing the exact same ritual, who determines what ritual really honors? Does the heart of the individual, their intent, really have the power to change sinful disobedience into righteous worship?

Even further, would the ignorance of the Christian, unknowingly recreating pagan traditions, excuse their behavior?

If a person sins, and commits any of these things which are forbidden to be done by the commandments of the Lord, though he does not know it, yet he is guilty and shall bear his iniquity. - Leviticus 5:17 (NKJV)

No, ignorance is not an excuse, and really this shouldn't be a surprise.

If we do anything at all, we should understand what it is we are doing. We tell our children "think before you act" for this reason. Before we celebrate, and before we choose a particular manner to celebrate, we should take special caution to examine whether what we are doing aligns with what God has actually, explicitly, commanded. We should look to what God has declared about worship to understand how we are to celebrate and bring glory to God.

The woman said to Him, “Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet. Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where one ought to worship.”

Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

The woman said to Him, “I know that Messiah is coming” (who is called Christ). “When He comes, He will tell us all things.”

Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you am He.” - John 4:19-26 (NKJV)

Do we worship God "in spirit and truth" when we ignore what God commands and make up our own methods of worship, hoping that God sees that we're trying and gives us credit even when we get it wrong? Do we worship God "in spirit and truth" when we ignore the historical significance of rituals and traditions and pretend that we can redeem them by slapping "in Jesus' name" somewhere? Do we worship God "in spirit and truth" when we discourage discernment and the calling out of sin in order to promote peace and harmony?

Jesus also had words about how God's chosen people had fallen astray from what God really desired.

Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, "Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?"

He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:

‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.

And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ 

For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men - the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do."

He said to them, "All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition. - Mark 7:5-9 (NKJV)

Even with Israel keeping the motions and rituals commanded by God, because they held onto their own hearts and did not give them to God, their worship was in hypocritical vain. What they did was made irrelevant, because those actions were supposed to be an outpouring of their hearts, not just a mechanical repetition, and since their hearts did not belong to God, even in keeping "the Law", they were still sinful and rebellious and disobedient to God.

If, even in keeping God's commands, Israel was in sin because their hearts were not submitted to God, how can anyone claim that doing even less of what God commanded would have made God any more pleased with Israel?

Further, when God has asked us to wait, humans have terrible instincts, and when left to our own devices, the actions we take are always reprehensible, and God's silence is not approval at all.

Now when the people saw that Moses delayed coming down from the mountain, the people gathered together to Aaron, and said to him, “Come, make us gods that shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man who brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we do not know what has become of him.” - Exodus 32:1 (NKJV)

Then He came to the disciples and found them sleeping, and said to Peter, “What! Could you not watch with Me one hour? Watch and pray, lest you enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.” - Matthew 26:40-41 (NKJV)

Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. - Romans 1:24-25 (NKJV)

 And, as I keep stating, trying to do things "in Jesus' name" doesn't count for anything.

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ - Matthew 7:21-23 (NKJV)

What this means is that, for the current American holidays, the majority of them at the minimum need to be abandoned entirely, if we are to be a "Christian nation". These practices which came from occult worship need to be eliminated entirely. We should not desire to retain the chains of sinful behavior once we have been freed from them.

God is not interested in being worshiped in any fashion that we please, but is instead honored when we do what God has asked, and only what God has asked, not adding to it, puffing ourselves up in arrogance, or in removing from it, becoming hypocrites.

I do not find scriptural support for celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ on December 25th with lights, a tree, and giving one another gifts.

I also do not find scriptural support for celebrating the resurrection of Jesus Christ based on astrological signs, with rabbits and eggs.

How do we determine what to do with these traditions?

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. - Romans 14:5-8 (NKJV)

The focus needs to be on the Lord we serve, first and foremost. Especially if we try to play holidays off as spiritually neutral, if we are going out of our way to put up decorations and have special meals and generally make a big deal of something other than God, what does that say about our hearts and our priorities? If we would celebrate things which we then claim don't really matter with our time and energy, and then only give God a pittance in comparison, what does that say about how much we value God?

Add on top of this that our nation has been denying God more and more as time has gone on, in both thought and deed, which was itself brought on by the refusal of believers to wholeheartedly fight for truth in both the public and private spheres, and folks who then want to pursue truth are left with nothing to salvage. What we practiced in sin is never redeemed, only we are.

As it is written:

“There is none righteous, no, not one;
There is none who understands;
There is none who seeks after God.
They have all turned aside;
They have together become unprofitable;
There is none who does good, no, not one.”
“Their throat is an open tomb;
With their tongues they have practiced deceit”;
“The poison of asps is under their lips”;
“Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness.”
“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
Destruction and misery are in their ways;
And the way of peace they have not known.”
“There is no fear of God before their eyes.” - Romans 3:10-18 (NKJV)

Worse still, Satan has a bent on creating human unity against God. In adopting rituals which bring glory and honor to Satan and his allies, but just changing "who we do it for", the distinction between the unrepentant sinner and the saint is entirely eliminated. No longer does how one live become a means by which God's work in our lives is seen, and that's a problem, because the world hates God and those who stand with God.

If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. - John 15:19 (NKJV)

What benefit is gained by taking on the rituals, traditions, and practices of the world which hates the God that we are supposed to serve, to honor, to glorify in all that we do? What message do we send to those around us, let alone to God, when we adapt the living out of our faith to the world, instead of to what God has commanded?

Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. - Matthew 22:37-38 (NKJV)

Well, for those who worship Satan and his allies, it means they get to enjoy the fellowship of those who sit at God's table, while being in open rebellion with God. It means that unrepentant sinners and those who have placed their faith in Jesus Christ can live nearly identical lives with little to tell them apart. It means that all the things the world hates about God are eliminated by subverting what God has said through getting the children of God to pretend that sin is ever redeemed, and not just the sinner.

The Gospel does not benefit from dilution. Jesus Christ is Lord, period, and his sacrifice for our sins on the cross is where we should place our faith, and our works should come out of gratitude for what God has afforded us even though we didn't deserve it. God is not worshiped by accident, or by human strength alone, as we lack the ability to even recognize Jesus as Lord by our own strength.

Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously”? - James 4:4-5 (NKJV)

I will no longer partake in pagan celebrations that have been "Christianized", and will instead use these opportunities to devote time and energy to the praise and worship of God, as God would desire it, in aligning my spirit with God's, in pursuing and sharing truth, and in the care of my body, the temple of the Holy Spirit and a living sacrifice to God.

I hope you consider these verses, and the detailed information shared by the late Doc Marquis, and search your heart to understand your priorities, determine for yourself what corrections are still required in your continued process of sanctification.

Alternatively, if you find that you care more for the pomp and circumstance of this world, the lights and the decorations and the songs and celebrations and so forth, I would encourage you to pursue Jesus Christ instead, as the pleasures of this life will never fully satisfy in the way that reconciliation with your creator does. The path you are on leads to death and destruction and suffering without end, that you haven't reached that destination does not mean it is not there.

Confess that you have sinned!
Call on Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior!
Repent of your evil ways through His power!
Live in relationship with God, who created you and desires your salvation!
Give all glory to the God who loved those who didn't deserve it!